We were in a Struggle to Stop the Child Abuse in the face of a system not willing to let us do so.
Every time a mouth opens something new comes out which causes more questions – On the Mercury News Podcast page in the conversation / attack section a women
was claiming to have a degree in child psychology and was the Klaver’s neighbor at the time of Joshua’s death. She is also on the podcast. She said on the podcast she and her husband heard Bobbi screaming in the street – – Then I thought of what Bobbi said she did after finding Joshua. The neighbors statement > – She spoke of hearing Bobbi screaming in the street which brought them outside, She said that her husband went into the barn and helped KW cut Joshua down ; her husband in a interview with the Mercury News claims the same. Cringe about it for a moment with me because writing about my son like this crushes me – – – Bobbi claims – After following KW from the house to the car to grab rabbit food ( ? ) then to the barn while just friendly chatting away. . .their two babes in the house alone after a day dealing with the Courts and stealing Joshua from my mother at our home so soon before this moment .. What was explained to me about that night in 2014 I doubt any chatting was friendly and after finding Joshua she claimed to helped cut him down then ran in the house and called 911 – called a neighbor to come watch over their children and I would think she contained her very small children in a safe place like theirs cribs since they left them alone for so long, she had to lock up the killer dogs in the dog run and opened the two large swing gates to the property for emergency vehicles – she claims to have run to the barn to encourage KW to keep doing CPR during all this – Then she was found standing in the street screaming to wave down medics in the pitch dark countryside by the neighbors – Bobbi tells them what has happened – tic toc on the time – Mr neighbor runs through the loud gravel drive to the barn where KW is – He still had not cut Joshua down yet said Mr Neighbor because it seems at this time Joshua was once again hanging in that barn but his body was partially leaning against bails of hay which would not have been stored in the butchering area of the barn. .. this man said in his interview with the Mercury News that he had to help lift Joshua body up so KW could cut the rope and he was out of breath ??? Why was KW out of breath after Bobbi claims they had already cut Joshua down in the butcher room but when the neighbor ran into the barn where KW had butcher knifes that would have sliced through bone with no need for help to adjust Joshua’s body to cut the rope . . Joshua was in a totally different part of the barn and there KW stood and he hadn’t cut through ‘this‘ rope yet said the neighbor as Bobbi was running around doing all these things . Why is that ? Why did Bobbi claim to have checked on KW and encouraged him while he was doing CPR on Joshua when the neighbor claims Joshua was not cut down yet when they found her screaming in the street ? More Questions because the mom in me questions if the CPR had worked so the next choice for KW would be what ?? Why was my son seen hanging in two different places in that barn ? !!!!The Sheriff’s Office ( KW’s Co-Workers and friends ) never questioned these neighbors that night and they were on the property shocked that NO one wanted to speak with them .. . .and after the podcast came out in 2017 the Sheriff’s Office felt the same again as they did in 1989, 1990 . .We do not conduct our investigations off of what other people say . . . this time on a podcast instead of standing outside the barn where Joshua’s death was placed . They could have learned this information and so much more as they refused to investigate when Joshua died In 1989, again in 1990 and again when the investigation opened in 2014 . I had to find a reporter to do it.
Bobbi Klaver, I think between all your conversations with your friend and then your once again silence to the legal system I lean more toward the friend chats and what you told her will haunt me but I can’t put it in writing here . . silence once again seems to be a golden ticket for you.
jsulek@bayareanewsgroup.com
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HANGING – FIRST OF SIX CHAPTERS
THE MYSTERIOUS CASE OF
THE BOY IN THE BARN
A sheriff’s deputy. His young son. A bitter custody battle. A haunting death. Was it suicide or something more sinister? Twenty-five years later, Santa Clara County sheriff’s detectives returned to take a closer look. So did we. How did 10-year-old Joshua Klaver end up hanging to death in the family barn?
PRESUMING – Chapter Two
FELLOW DEPUTIES AND
THE QUESTIONS NOT ASKED
http://extras.mercurynews.com/hanging/chapter2.html
CONNECTING #3
HOW SUSPICIONS PASSED FROM WOMAN TO WOMAN- THIRD OF SIX CHAPTERS
CONFRONTING – #4
A QUEST TO ASK K.W.
THE HARD QUESTIONS, AT LAST
HURTING – #5
WHO ABUSED JOSH KLAVER —
AND WHO KNEW ABOUT IT?
Child Protective Services > She learned of Josh’s death from her boss, Henry Collada, head of the county’s Family Court Services, who died years ago. He told her a detail few people knew — that when Josh died, his knees were bruised and scraped. She said Collada told her he feared Josh had been dragged, and both he and Merek quietly believed Klaver had something to do with it.
For more than a year, however, “we didn’t tell anybody because I was afraid of that guy; so was Collada,” she said. “Come on, who are we? Hank Collada and I were just two people talking about what we really thought. What could we do?”
From: Julia Sulek <jsulek@bayareanewsgroup.com>Subject: Re: updateDate: August 22, 2017 at 4:57:45 PM EDTTo: Kathy AtkinsHey, so is mine! We are planning to post the story in serial form — spaced out over more than a week — in the podcast, online and in print.Chapter one of the podcast and online story is now scheduled to be posted Thursday morning — hopefully 8 a.m. your time. The tricky part is that chapter 2 won’t run until Monday. Chapter 3 will be Wednesday. Chapter 4 on Thursday. Chapter 5 on Friday. Chapter 6 on Sunday.Our print version starts on Sunday and skips Monday, so that’s why we are trying to catch up so all three will be on the same track late in the week.I’m sure that will be a bit agonizing. But please don’t make any judgements until the end. You will learn things as you go. Some might be frustrating to you and others validating and still others surprising.We have done our best to be fair in a very delicate story.Hang in there.Julia
SHERIFF EGGE SAID ~ NO OTHER CRIMES HAVE BEEN CONNECTED WITH IT~
“San Jose Mercury News (CA)HANGED BOY ENDURED CUSTODY BATTLE – February 2, 1989
Section: Local
Edition: Morning Final
Page: 1B
THOMAS FARRAGHER AND DALE RODEBAUGH, Mercury News Staff
Writers
A 10-year-old boy who hanged himself this week in his father’s barn had been the focus of a heated courtroom custody battle hours before he took his life. The boy, caught between his arguing parents, had threatened a year ago to kill himself — and had been evaluated by a psychiatrist after he wrote in a journal that he was considering suicide, sheriff’s deputies said Wednesday.”He did write down that he was contemplating suicide,” said Sgt. Jerry Egge. “He was seen by a psychiatrist and he was found not to be suicidal.”
But Monday night, about 30 minutes after he told his father that he was going to a barn behind their San Martin home to feed the rabbits, the fifth-grader was found hanging by a rope.
Egge said the coroner has ruled the death a suicide and “no other crimes” have been connected with it.
According to statistics kept by Santa Clara County, seven children ages 10 to 14 killed themselves from 1985 to 1987. Although the county doesn’t keep records by exact age, a statistician said no child younger than 10 was known to have committed suicide since 1980.
In this case, authorities said, the boy apparently was upset that the joint custody agreement between his parents was being altered — ordering the child’s chief residence changed from his mother’s home in Hollister to his father’s home in San Martin.
The boy was not present at Monday’s hearing.
”He’s had a tough time,” Egge said of the boy. “Both parents are of a volatile type. He was living with his mother before this. They had a very bitter custody battle over a couple of years and I’m sure it wore on him. . . .
”The feeling was that the boy at that time wanted to stay with his mother, but he also loved his father. The boy was caught in between. He’s just had a rough life with arguing parents.”
One neighbor close to the family described the boy as troubled, and said the child’s stepmother had left work late last year “to get him straightened out in school.” The boy’s family did not want to talk about the incident.
The boy had recently enrolled in the fifth grade at Rucker School, where 500 children study in northeast Gilroy.
Dom Galu, the school’s principal, said children there have been receiving group and individual counseling since Tuesday morning.
”It’s just devastating,” Galu said. “It triggers emotions in everyone. Children cannot understand it. Parents cannot understand it. The school is just charged with emotion.”
Students at the K-6 school — mostly those from the boy’s fifth-grade class — have been seeing a team of five school psychologists, two local counselors and some school nurses brought in for counseling sessions.
Dave Neilsen of the state Department of Mental Health said that a 1985 study of California teen-agers showed that psychologists and sociologists observe depression in about half of the teens they examined.
But, he said, “There’s not a lot written on suicide in small children. There may be underreporting of these deaths because we don’t know how many accidents or falls represent an intent to do harm. In this department (Department of Mental Health), we estimate that underreporting of adult suicide is 25 percent.”
Said Meg Paris, director of the Santa Clara County Suicide and Crisis Service:
”A lot of paths lead to suicide. There is no single reason, although there has been tons of research. Some problem areas are family relations, school problems and self-esteem.
”But kids who have had a difficult time coping along the way will be more vulnerable. If a crisis happens against a backdrop of long-standing problems, the child has no strategy to cope.”Memo/Infobox: Mercury News Staff Writer Lorenzo P. Romero contributed to this report.
# The comment given by the Sheriff’s Office in the Mercury News article about Joshua’s death is 1989 states that the year before he died one neighbor close to the family described the boy as troubled, and said the child’s stepmother had left work late last year “to get him straightened out in school.” The boy’s family did not want to talk about the incident. I sure wanted to talk about it then but the Mercury News was not interested .
This is when the Klaver’s got the Court to smack me for getting Joshua the mental health care he needed from the years of continuing abuse , because it never stopped and the Klaver’s interfered in every moment, they did not want Joshua in therapy and the Court allowed them to rip Joshua from the CAPI mental healthcare unit . . Bobbi’s restraint order against KW in Oklahoma says fear issues since 1st married . .1985. Joshua died one year after the Courts allowed them to continue on their way of living .
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Editorial- Mercury News – Would we still fail Josh Klaver today?
http://mercurynews.ca.newsmemory.com/publink.php?shareid=00bfb8db9
Editorial: Child’s apparent suicide in a San Martin barn holds lessons for us today
I found this editorial written by the Mercury News Staff > “Atkins blames herself for her years of drug abuse that allowed Klaver to initially take custody of the child.” Take a moment in – Who I am for details –
I could be seen by some as splitting hairs. Was it the 8 months that I own when life became harsh for a time, KW and I legally agreed with no courtroom involvement that it was best for Joshua at the time to have his main residence with his father not years of drug abuse the paper has decided to push out twice now in these editorials. After everything Joshua went through I could just own the difference in time but it’s not the truth. In our court documents KW complaints at this time were – no home – somewhat true, when Joshua was with me we stayed with my parents, Josh had his own room there – sleeping on the couches at friends – at times true – a chronic issue of being un employed- durning this time in my life true – And even though its no ones business I at times slept in my broken down car and hitchhiked everywhere I went when I didn’t have Joshua with me. During these months when my choices became Joshua’s lifetime he was not with me when I slipped in and out of partying too much. KW knew the harshness that happened in my life at this time , he waited until I hit bottom then he and his wife Judi jumped at me with a few legal threats and life encouragements of his was better but he did not know what I was doing when Joshua was with him and none of his complaints were of a druggie mom issue. I have shared this part of my story because my choice at that time in my life had a huge impact on my sons life. I expect others to do the same but I question if that will ever happen.
As we entered into the Courts we went through the process of a very serious court mediator , She wanted to help Joshua and I could not explain why I was not always there during that period of time without telling her what I had been through and also what my choices were before I found myself sitting with her. And when I started this webpage I shared how I placed Joshua on his path – KW has decided to take that and spit out crudeness just to do it. And as the reporter interviewed KW I waited to hear what he remembered, I wanted to hear his voice and see his face as he claimed what he did and did not remember about what happened the night Joshua died, But she choose to keep his words silent for him, out of respect I think she said – I did not raise Joshua as a drugged out mother either in his earlier years or when everything fell apart, There is nothing in our court records that claim druggie mom – KW would have ripped me in court if that was the case but it was not –
After the Podcast came out and because of the comments made about me being a druggie mom and couch hopping with Joshua since he was a newborn for years I contacted the reporter and the paper about this and Julia’s response was I would never say those things about you Kathy I swear, it was another writer she said (email ) . . . there the words were . .I was told they removed such language from the many editorials in papers from around the Bay Area they own, I mean many. Was the information changed in all the papers ?? , I don’t think so for a moment but I do know the information was never changed on the podcast, I once again threatened to bring legal action but I decided not to and just stepped away. . .I decided I was willing to take the extra harsh hit then have the Mercury News pull the podcast if I sued .